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Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.18 17:45:57 -
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1. You should probably play a different game if a relaxing activity needs to involve 0 risk. They do exist. Otherwise, relax away but you'll lose some ships doing it.
2. Bingo! That's my favorite square!
3. Scammers do work for their money. Scams are work. Enforcing the Code does not turn a profit for most agents. Agents without any isk can have lost ships reimbursed by James. Agents with their own sources of wealth can opt to spend that wealth on the entertainment that hunting mining barges brings, but the widespread Code enforcement that this thread is all about doesn't pay well.
4. Yeah. A miner once told my boss he had friends in larger alliances than mine. It failed to offer the miner much in the way of negotiating power. If a player had powerful nullsec friends they would likely spend a good bit of time out there playing with them. It can be a lot of fun.
5. There will always be ships to buy. If everyone stopped mining tomorrow and forever, the people who can and do make the rules of the game would alter them so that people always have ships to buy. The possibilities are endless.
6. This is not about isk. Its about fun. Your fun and ours. The moment isk becomes more important than fun its serisouly time to think about moving on.
7. Eve isn't a twitch combat game like an fps. Small-scale Eve battles are usually won before they are fought. Its a game of preparation and the ability to control the terms of the battle. This sort of thing really doesn't need to be noble to be entertaining, which is what people should really be after.
8. I don't need to be everywhere at once. I just need to be at the location of the barge I am hunting right now. One day it may be your barge. That's obviously still a problem for you when multiplied times each agent, or else you wouldn't be here making this thread.
9. You'd be shocked how few bother to do so. I base out of two systems, and still see a lot of repeat offenders.
10. Thats another bingo square! I'll assume you were not comparing us to the Vichy French.
11. Its a video game where you can believe in whatever you want. If I were to take the words of some of the miners I have spoken with in Eve as an indicator of what they believe in, I can sadly say that homophobia, hate and racism are a lot more popular than honor.
12.. I'd like to see an Eve where the risk is present and by design to the point where all reward has appropriate risk. Then, Eve wouldn't need a New Order. The way it stands now, CCP says 'well, we designed a game where you can mine, but others may be able to stop you if you don't take the steps needed to protect yourself' That risk is not guaranteed by design. It needs a movement like the New Order to ensure that it exists and is widespread.
This final point is a very important one, because I think we both want the same thing. An Eve where the New Order doesn't (have to) exist. The problem is that game mechanics over the past couple of years have been straying in the direction of making it harder and harder for players to provide the element of risk the game needs. People are increasingly having consequences for their own choices being designed out of the game. The removal of Can Flipping is the one that really steamed me and pushed me into this style of play. Maybe one day Eve won't need an organized group to balance risk and rewards and force player choices to actually mean something, but for now, it certainly does. |
Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.18 19:14:06 -
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MotherSammy wrote:
Dammit, man, you almost had us. You need to learn a little subtlety. This was a massive tell and the cat's out of the bag now. There are "reasons" in your list here that are phrased so obviously that you couldn't possibly be a real rebel.
Sigh. Still waiting on a real rebellion.
I don't get what you're after. This seems like a legitimate challenge of the Code to me.
His signature alone speaks to his legitimacy. Only real rebels ask for essays.
'Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.'
Really, the discussion we should be having here is what agent everyone is going to copy on their essays. |
Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:42:18 -
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Jennifer en Marland wrote:Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both
Doesn't the AG community call its agents Pandaren? He could always borrow that. |
Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:21:40 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Quote:Since the Heroes of Highsec do not yet have a teamspeak, one our brave secret agents created a channel on CODE.'s own teamspeak. Please stop, I can't breathe from laughing.
They've already infiltrated Code. This really may be a revolution to watch. Read up on your Crane Brinton guys, The HoH obviously have. |
Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:21:15 -
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Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion.
1. Educate Miners 2. Save HiSec and Eve Online 3. ?????? 4. Profit!
Before you start yelling, Veers, the ?????? isn't extortion, its The Code.
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